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Andy: hello

David: yeah, is Andy there?

Andy: uh…this is he

David: this is David Crowder calling for the interview that
Was scheduled today?

Andy: oh. Yeah. Great. Um sorry…I didn’t expect you so soon
Let me…give me a second to get things set up here

David: no problem

Andy: yeah. Made a few changes around here and my typical setup
Is kinda, you know, technology’s a killer right?

David: uh…well…we’ll have to wait and see I guess

Andy: well. Alright. Well. Umm. Well. Hey, let’s get started
Uh…sorry my notes are…you know a little scattered here…uh…
You’ll have to forgive me

David: mmhmm

Andy: uhmm…I gotta admit I…I really don’t know much about…
You know…you… You…or the band…
But I’ve got some friends that are big fans and um…

David: right

Andy: but…uh…anyway…um…alright. Well. Ok. So here we go
Um…so your new CD is titled a collision, or…um…3 + 4 = 7
That’s…that’s interesting. You know the…the…

David: mmhmm

Andy: …whole double title thing

David: yeah

Andy: uhmm lets see…uh…and the atom on the cover that’s pretty

David: uh huh

Andy: cool. I was…I mean…I was never all that great in science and
And math wasn’t really my…my specialty…which is…which is I guess
You know, why I’m a writer now. But uh…

David: mmhmm

Andy: …anyway um…

David: ok

Andy: ok. So uh…it…I don’t know…is that…it’s like with the cover…
Is that a metaphor or…uh…
I mean is it metaphorical for something or like, or is it…

David: well…

Andy: …just pretty or…

David: …nah. Well I mean. Yeah. The…uh…atom, it’s not really…
I mean it’s a symbol. You see that and you think atom
It shows electrons moving in elliptical paths around a nucleus and all…
We know…

Andy: mmhmm

David: …that’s…that’s not how an atom works. Or…or looks even
For that matter…

Andy: ok

David: …and so….and so that’s why it was appropriate for the cover
You know…

Andy: right. Uhmm. Ok. Yeah. I’m not really sure I see the connection
But…

David: …well…and what we mean to say is that the elements of worship
Are inadequate, much like the atom depiction
But this is what we have you know? It helps us carry the idea

Andy: mmhmm. Mmhmm. Uhmm. Ok. Uh
Tell…ok…what’s the deal with these little songs between the real…
You know, the real songs? Like are they significant?
Uhmm…is there like a theme of the album?
Or are they creating space? Like what’s…going on there?

David: uhmm. I don’t…

Andy: ok. Uhmm. So you know I hear there’s this really spectacular ending to…
To the record is that true?

David: we’ll have to wait and see on that

Andy: swell

David: it does swell

Andy: wait…uh it…wait…hold on…it does well?

David: no. It swells

Andy: oh. Right. It swells. Uhmm. Ok. Well
And so the end starts with this…this piece called „the lark ascending.”
Uhmm now what is…what is the lark?
Is that…is that also a metaphor for something?

David: uhmm. I gue…I mean I guess. I just…I don’t think…
I don’t think you should read too much into any of this you know?
Its…I mean the lark ascending was written…
And uh, the work opens with this calm set of sustained chords
And then (coughs) sorry. Excuse me. And uhmm
Anyway and so then the violin enters as the lark and it…
It starts with this series of ascending and repeated intervals and this…
These nimble then elongated arpeggios. Uhmm
And he actually found inspiration in a work by the
English poet George Meredith who died in 1909 and the composer
Included a portion of Meredith’s poem on the flyleaf…

Andy: wait uh…

David: …of the published work

Andy: ….hold on wait…

David: …uhmm…

Andy: …why do you keep mentioning…

David: …and it…

Andy: …the year they died?

David: …well it went…and it went like this it says uh…

„He rises and begins to round
He drops the silver chain of sound
Of many links without a break
In chirrup, whistle, slur and shake
For singing till his heaven fills
'Tis love of earth that he instills
And ever winging up and up
Our valley is his golden cup
And he the wine which overflows
To lift us with him as he goes
Till lost on his aerial rings
In light, and then the fancy sings.”

Andy: huh. Wow. That’s nice. But I mean…but who is the lark?

David: I don’t know

Andy: sorry. I think i’ve got the wrong page. Uhmm
The script you gave me says something different. It says, „you are.”

David: yeah but I don’t…
I don’t feel like the lark much of the time and
Uhmm there are other larks for me you know?

Andy: wait a second. Ok. So correct me if I’m wrong but uhmm…

David: yeah

Andy: …in the script I have you’re…

David: right

Andy: …making a point that art does this…

David: right

Andy: …you know the whole
„it rises on wing from earth to fill the heavens…

David: yes

Andy: …pulling the rest of us with it. That as the lark rises so do we.”

David: right. I’m unsure

Andy: but. Uh. Hold on. I mean…it…it says so right here

David: yeah. Uhmm. But the ground pulls at my feet

Andy: hold…hold on just a second
Uh but I mean what about the number 7?

David: did you ever notice that the sky is all the way to the ground?

Andy: wait. Hold on. What?

David: we’re walking around in it. We’re in the sky
There is sky and there is ground and we’re somewhere in between
That is where we live. And sometimes some of us take wing and
When they do, when their feet leave the ground, even for a second
They pull the rest of us with them. And when we rise, and when we rise
And when we notice that the sky has been around us all along
We have been walking into it. It has been this constant collision
Divinity and depravity. And we rise and we rise and we rise and we rise
And we rise and we rise and we rise and we rise and we rise and we rise
And we rise and we rise and we rise and we rise…

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